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Post by rogonandi on Feb 26, 2014 0:09:14 GMT
Julie goes off to activate the Pendant, but we found out they're surprisingly close to Souballo Castle. Brian sees the beacon of light and decides to take care of it himself. Originally it was Brian's intention to do this with Angelo, but it turns out Angelo doesn't want to get up in the middle of the night.   Click this to go to the comic archives: Click here!Click this to vote for the comic: Right here! |
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Post by Naomi Li on Feb 26, 2014 0:24:30 GMT
So, assuming he hasn't memorized that particular location, he's probably going to be going off of line of sight in the sky near them, giving him a 94% chance of arriving without any complications whatsoever and our protagonists not very many rounds before he's within short range of them. (And coming from a direction that most humanoids don't bother looking) I think that, after this, they're going to make "teleport to semi-random wilderness, use pendant, teleport to another area and THEN evaluate location" their standard operating procedure.
Not entirely certain why he didn't just use greater teleport. Isn't he high enough level that the greater reliability and distance conveyed is worth far more than the 7th level spell slot?
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Post by rogonandi on Feb 26, 2014 0:35:26 GMT
Not entirely certain why he didn't just use greater teleport. Isn't he high enough level that the greater reliability and distance conveyed is worth far more than the 7th level spell slot? In order to use Greater Teleport he'd have to know exactly where that beam's coming from. All he has right now in terms of info is 'Warp Me 300 miles to the sky that way,' which can be done with Teleport 'basic.' It'll take a few rounds of teleporting for him to close in on them since he doesn't know the exact milage.  |
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Post by Naomi Li on Feb 26, 2014 0:48:02 GMT
Really? So being able to see the far off sky near the beam is insufficient to count as a proper teleport target? *Shrugs* Okay. '“Studied carefully” is a place you know well, either because >>you can currently see it<<, you’ve been there often, or you have used other means (such as scrying) to study the place for at least one hour.' The part in the arrows being the clause I thought would apply. And, with its 1% chance of a mishap and a 5% chance of varyingly off-target locations, I had thought he would rather use greater teleport.
Also, wasn't aware that one COULD teleport with "here plus X distance in that direction" instead of TO a known location. If using such a method, how do you determine which category the teleport attempt falls into?
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Post by rogonandi on Feb 26, 2014 1:22:28 GMT
Really? So being able to see the far off sky near the beam is insufficient to count as a proper teleport target? *Shrugs* Okay. '“Studied carefully” is a place you know well, either because >>you can currently see it<<, you’ve been there often, or you have used other means (such as scrying) to study the place for at least one hour.' The part in the arrows being the clause I thought would apply. And, with its 1% chance of a mishap and a 5% chance of varyingly off-target locations, I had thought he would rather use greater teleport. Also, wasn't aware that one COULD teleport with "here plus X distance in that direction" instead of TO a known location. If using such a method, how do you determine which category the teleport attempt falls into? It's my opinion that only way someone can generally use a teleport spell x distance in that direction is in a scenario like this, where you have line of sight to a target but can't accurately determine how far away the target is. I'm generally rule zeroing this situation as I think open sky with a light beam that vanishes after a combat round isn't enough visual info for a greater teleporter to use. Even if Brian could warp to the beam's exact location, he didn't see exactly where the beam was coming from, so Brian would still be several hundred feet above the forested mountainside. |
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Post by Naomi Li on Feb 26, 2014 2:00:33 GMT
Makes sense. Thanks for your answers.
Though I am confused something. You seem to be implying that "greater teleport" requires MORE information than "teleport" to be used, but as far as I am aware "greater teleport" has exactly the same requirements as "teleport" with the sole differences of "false location" causing the spell to fail instead of (probably) mishap-spam you and it otherwise always taking you to the location specified without a roll.
I suppose you might have meant "in this particular circumstance the advantage of 'greater teleport' over 'teleport' is small enough that he will stick to using 'teleport' for now".
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Post by rogonandi on Feb 26, 2014 2:18:38 GMT
Makes sense. Thanks for your answers. Though I am confused something. You seem to be implying that "greater teleport" requires MORE information than "teleport" to be used, but as far as I am aware "greater teleport" has exactly the same requirements as "teleport" with the sole differences of "false location" causing the spell to fail instead of (probably) mishap-spam you and it otherwise always taking you to the location specified without a roll. I suppose you might have meant "in this particular circumstance the advantage of 'greater teleport' over 'teleport' is small enough that he will stick to using 'teleport' for now". Sorry about the confusion. Greater Teleport doesn't require as much information, but it does still require you to have a good idea of where you're teleporting. I would determine this as using an area with a few aspects to it that someone would remember, such as remembering how someone's living room looked. I don't think it would work in the case of the beam of light because the beam itself doesn't last long enough to make it a 'permanent' destination (this beam basically only lasts a couple of seconds longer than a bolt of lightning.) Basically he used Teleport because the beam itself is within Teleport's range. Brian also has to prepare spells, so there's a chance he may have already used his greater teleport spell(s) prepared that day, or maybe he didn't prepare any that day (pretty unlikely.) |
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Post by oppyu on Feb 26, 2014 7:52:41 GMT
Well that's going to be trouble, though my money's on Julie and Lenny making it back to the party before it turns into a major plot thing, which would require Merla to live long enough to get them home. Alternatively we could have a party split with Merla either getting the hell out of dodge and abandoning our heroes, or Merla going down.
Considerably less likely options include Merla, Julie and Lenny killing the big bad, or Brian killing two of the main protagonists.
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Post by Zaealix on Feb 27, 2014 16:48:51 GMT
I suppose we can expect one of two things 1. Close shave with Brian NEARLY finding them or 2. Merla gets them out of dodge but dies in the process.
Though Merla running and leaving them to their fate could work, I'd feel like...
IDK, maybe it's just me being dumb but I don't see how this ends in any sort of 'workable' for our heroes...Then again I don't have a good grasp of how difficult it WOULD be for the three of them to take Brian in the first place.
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