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Post by rogonandi on May 9, 2015 4:38:24 GMT
I've got a new comic up, and the battle's continuing with Angelo continuing to slay or banish everything. *sigh * Click here to go to the comic's archives: Click!Click here to vote for the comic: Click!
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Post by Naomi on May 9, 2015 4:44:39 GMT
Iiinnnteresting. Very interesting. This is a rather expensive distraction... if they're sane, they have people whose sole job is studying his capabilities so that the next battle against him is stacked more heavily in their favour. As always, thanks for the comic.
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Post by rogonandi on May 9, 2015 4:52:59 GMT
Iiinnnteresting. Very interesting. This is a rather expensive distraction... if they're sane, they have people whose sole job is studying his capabilities so that the next battle against him is stacked more heavily in their favour. As always, thanks for the comic. Part of the reason why they're not doing nearly as well against him is because Angelo or Brian don't actually fight much in the war unless it's a large-scale battle such as this. (In fact this is the first time all comic we've seen Angelo actually engaging in a real battle.) We've only seen a fraction of what Angelo's capable of as well. He's only used 2 level 9 spells in the fight so far (Implosion lasts up to 4 turns if you're concentrating.)
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Post by Naomi on May 9, 2015 5:04:35 GMT
Hn... I wonder how many raiding parties are in Empire territory focused entirely upon capturing or destroying important supplies... like expensive spell components, weapon shipments, and anything else they can hit. They could probably slow down the war machine a fair amount by hitting the Empire wherever they might be less powerful.
Also, Candesco, You suspect or you have a suspicion.
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Post by rogonandi on May 9, 2015 5:22:42 GMT
Hn... I wonder how many raiding parties are in Empire territory focused entirely upon capturing or destroying important supplies... like expensive spell components, weapon shipments, and anything else they can hit. They could probably slow down the war machine a fair amount by hitting the Empire wherever they might be less powerful. Also, Candesco, You suspect or you have a suspicion. Both sides have been doing that quite a bit but with the exception of the scenes we've seen with Umbria and her crew it's been off-screen. I'm going to have to confess that the attention I've been giving the Silverfronds war might have taken up a larger part of the third book than it should've. It's come at the expense of Julie's plot and the general pacing of the comic.
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Post by Tiltowait on May 9, 2015 6:19:34 GMT
Wow, Angelo is somehow loyal to the lawful good god? How does that work? Shouldn't he be with Sarbek, the lawful evil god about which we've heard almost nothing? He's a lawful good heretic?
And the demonic voice bubble? Wow, so there really is something inside Angelo controlling him. Those tentacle things, whatever they are. I guess it makes sense, so that's why Angelo has a halo while none of the other mortal characters do. His halo is faint, so the thing in him is hidden or suppressed.
He says "not by you or anything else". So maybe it's one of those construct things?
Candesco's "I have suspicion" sounds more like Chinglish than his usual overly elaborate speech pattern.
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Post by Byzantine on May 9, 2015 7:33:41 GMT
Angelo might be with Sarbek now, if he follows any god, but he used to be a follower of the lawful good gods before he went all big bad (that was mentioned earlier). I suspect whatever is inside him is related to that. Which is why the angel tried reasoning with him; most people on finding out they have an untold horror inside them would try to help get it out, but Angelo seems to both be aware of it's presence and to either agree with it or thinks something very bad would happen to him if it got removed. (Evil or not, no one intentionally lets themselves be used as a puppet without good reason, and Angelo is strong enough even a God would have trouble holding on if he threw everything he had into casting them out.) Based on what he said about his shattered soul perhaps whatever it is is the only thing keeping him intact enough to function, which would explain why he reacted by losing control the moment it was brought up. I wonder which, if either, is the real Angelo.
Also implosion is OP. I don't think the entire army combined stands a chance against just Angelo. With Brian there... no wonder he didn't bother asking if they could win if he was present. (I wonder If Angelo even gets XP for this, he outlevels them massively by all indications).
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Post by Myrmex on May 9, 2015 12:11:37 GMT
So many hints about Angelo's true nature! I think we'll learn the truth before long (well, relatively...it could take months in real time).
There are many hints: Angelo is possessed by a tentacle-thing which gives him racial SR, his sould is fractured, he wants the Magicant to fix himself, he collects souls (to fix himself?), Stellina no longer gives him power but he somehow keeps getting divine spells (maybe he leeches those captured souls for divine energy?).
Now, there is something that troubles me...what does Brian know about Angelo's nature? They are intimate enough that hiding anything from each other would be very difficult and Brian probably has insanely high bonus to Knowledge: Arcane and Knowledge: The Planes (and maybe Knowledge: Religion too), so he should have realized what is going on with Angelo...so, is Brian OK with his husband being the host of some kind of intelligent infernal tapeworm?.
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Post by EvilElitest on May 10, 2015 8:55:01 GMT
At the rist of disagreeing with the writing, I think the war is actually perfect for this book, because it builds the world and adds a backdrop for what the setting is. The depressing, painful, and cruel war turns the actions of the PCs from fighting a vague threat to fighting a very real and very dangerous threat, and unlike most fantasy stories where the empire has already won/almost won, here we have them just getting started on their invasion and doing serious horrifying damage in the process. I mean we got to know Cando and the Pixie Queen...and now they are dead. And the ramifications are going to be huge. Also because the bad guys have shown themselves to be extremely competent (but not obnoxiously so, as they make mistakes occasionally, like the loss of their spy), we are very VERY aware of how much damage they can do, how dangerous they are, and the fact that even if the Empire can be defeated, they are going to kill tens of thousands of innocent people, and that cost is just too high. So if the protagoinsts fail, the world isn't going to end, the empire will most likely eventually fail and Brian/Angelo will likely be killed, but the fact is every day the war continues with the massacres like the two parents against the elves, or Umbria's slaughter of entire units of people just defending their home, or Vallium's village, that is a great loss. Innocent people are being hurt every day in the comic, which adds a massive level of urgency on the protagonists to solve this thing. So I think you did the right thing.
As to the comic today, considering how well ANgelo is doing, I am curious why he and Brian didn't want to come. They are both Epic, with Angelo being some sort of super epic, so what do they lose by being here? Does something bad happen without them present? Even if they just don't like fighting, the fact is that Angelo seemed really upset that he and his husband needed to intervene in the battle, which implies that it is some sort of sacrifice or cost doing so.
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Post by Evil on May 10, 2015 8:58:37 GMT
So many hints about Angelo's true nature! I think we'll learn the truth before long (well, relatively...it could take months in real time). There are many hints: Angelo is possessed by a tentacle-thing which gives him racial SR, his sould is fractured, he wants the Magicant to fix himself, he collects souls (to fix himself?), Stellina no longer gives him power but he somehow keeps getting divine spells (maybe he leeches those captured souls for divine energy?). Now, there is something that troubles me...what does Brian know about Angelo's nature? They are intimate enough that hiding anything from each other would be very difficult and Brian probably has insanely high bonus to Knowledge: Arcane and Knowledge: The Planes (and maybe Knowledge: Religion too), so he should have realized what is going on with Angelo...so, is Brian OK with his husband being the host of some kind of intelligent infernal tapeworm?. Tape Worm? Tentacles? When did this happen? Did I miss something. THough other than that I agree, though Brian's expression when in Angelo's soul room and the fact that he listened to the singing before the speech implies that he is in the know. As too his god, I think Angelo draws power from the Lawful Neutral....well power, since this world seems to be missing both a LN and a CN deity, and while we know what happened to the latter, the former seems to be....yeah. So Angelo could be drawing from him the same way clerics might Draw from the Lady of Fate and Fortune, or maybe Angelo is a fragment of the LN god (though he is clearly LE) I mean what ever this is
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Post by Myrmex on May 10, 2015 9:24:25 GMT
So many hints about Angelo's true nature! I think we'll learn the truth before long (well, relatively...it could take months in real time). There are many hints: Angelo is possessed by a tentacle-thing which gives him racial SR, his sould is fractured, he wants the Magicant to fix himself, he collects souls (to fix himself?), Stellina no longer gives him power but he somehow keeps getting divine spells (maybe he leeches those captured souls for divine energy?). Now, there is something that troubles me...what does Brian know about Angelo's nature? They are intimate enough that hiding anything from each other would be very difficult and Brian probably has insanely high bonus to Knowledge: Arcane and Knowledge: The Planes (and maybe Knowledge: Religion too), so he should have realized what is going on with Angelo...so, is Brian OK with his husband being the host of some kind of intelligent infernal tapeworm?. Tape Worm? Tentacles? When did this happen? Did I miss something. THough other than that I agree, though Brian's expression when in Angelo's soul room and the fact that he listened to the singing before the speech implies that he is in the know. As too his god, I think Angelo draws power from the Lawful Neutral....well power, since this world seems to be missing both a LN and a CN deity, and while we know what happened to the latter, the former seems to be....yeah. So Angelo could be drawing from him the same way clerics might Draw from the Lady of Fate and Fortune, or maybe Angelo is a fragment of the LN god (though he is clearly LE) I mean what ever this is When Angelo angered he took the shape of a tentacled demon thing, and the statue in his soul room has that same look. I think it's quite obvious that the thing inside Angelo is related to the tentacle parasites inside the cloned children.
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Post by EvilElitest on May 10, 2015 14:29:29 GMT
Oh I thought that was just a joke panel, the way anime characters will have "Demon faces" and the parasites are something entirely different and less scary (particularly since they are under the domain of Brian" but maybe your right.
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Post by jssheridan on May 10, 2015 15:23:16 GMT
Don't make Angelo angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry.
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Post by rogonandi on May 10, 2015 22:33:28 GMT
Oh I thought that was just a joke panel, the way anime characters will have "Demon faces" and the parasites are something entirely different and less scary (particularly since they are under the domain of Brian" but maybe your right. It can be hard with me when it comes to when I'm joking and when I'm being serious. Sometimes I'm a bit of a troll that way.
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Post by greatdane on May 11, 2015 12:48:58 GMT
Does the Octodaithus increase Angelo's reflex saves or any defenses? The device's constant updates on enemy positions and attacks hints that Angelo is better able to dodge or otherwise defend himself.
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