Questions about the Manjulias gods and the Magicant fiasco

[danielxcutter]

1. Quizmalia was kicked out of the Manjulias pantheon because she made the Magicant and threw it on the Material Plane, right? She still seems to be enough of a god to grant divine magic to her followers, take care of her plane Zebro, and put treasure chests here and there, complete with Pandorinos. Then again, Judge Daethros technically isn't a god and yet pretty much every single Souballo cleric we've seen seems to be Clerics of Daethros... Just exactly what's the difference between being a god of the Manjulias pantheon and being a divine entity that can have clerics?

2. As mentioned above, Judge Daethros technically isn't a god, although he is capable of granting divine spells. However, in the post that it was mentioned, it says a) Daethros is the "steward to the throne", and b) "There presently isn't a a ruler of G.E.A.R.S at this moment in history", which heavily implies that there was a ruler of the Great Empirically Absolute Rule System, but there isn't now. Also, it seems odd that the current ruler of the CE demons, Janusine, is NE.... and she's the goddess of ambition, so I wouldn't be surprised if she took that spot from the original CE god who was in charge of them.

I have two questions about this.

 2-1. Am I right - were there originally a LN ruler of G.E.A.R.S. and a CE god of demons?

 2-2. Do the Magicant fiasco and/or Quizma have anything to do with the current vacancies?

3. Just how much did the big Q piss off the other gods because of the Magicant? I'm pretty sure that the Lawful ones - Stellina, Sarbek, and the ruler of G.E.A.R.S. - were absolutely furious, and the Neutral and Chaotic ones probably weren't that happy either.

[rogonandi]

Dec 14, 2016 5:31:10 GMT danielxcutter said:

1. Quizmalia was kicked out of the Manjulias pantheon because she made the Magicant and threw it on the Material Plane, right? She still seems to be enough of a god to grant divine magic to her followers, take care of her plane Zebro, and put treasure chests here and there, complete with Pandorinos. Then again, Judge Daethros technically isn't a god and yet pretty much every single Souballo cleric we've seen seems to be Clerics of Daethros... Just exactly what's the difference between being a god of the Manjulias pantheon and being a divine entity that can have clerics?

2. As mentioned above, Judge Daethros technically isn't a god, although he is capable of granting divine spells. However, in the post that it was mentioned, it says a) Daethros is the "steward to the throne", and b) "There presently isn't a a ruler of G.E.A.R.S at this moment in history", which heavily implies that there was a ruler of the Great Empirically Absolute Rule System, but there isn't now. Also, it seems odd that the current ruler of the CE demons, Janusine, is NE.... and she's the goddess of ambition, so I wouldn't be surprised if she took that spot from the original CE god who was in charge of them.

I have two questions about this.

 2-1. Am I right - were there originally a LN ruler of G.E.A.R.S. and a CE god of demons?

 2-2. Do the Magicant fiasco and/or Quizma have anything to do with the current vacancies?

3. Just how much did the big Q piss off the other gods because of the Magicant? I'm pretty sure that the Lawful ones - Stellina, Sarbek, and the ruler of G.E.A.R.S. - were absolutely furious, and the Neutral and Chaotic ones probably weren't that happy either.

1. Honestly, not a whole lot. The biggest difference is mostly statistical power levels and Monster Manual stuff such as challenge rating, stats and such.

2. It's likely Janusine usurped the Chaotic Evil throne from an older god. The main reason she's in that position of power is because she's...the most powerful entity in BloddenGogga (might makes right in this plane, after all.) Also, her non-chaotic nature allows for her to be somewhat more organized, goal oriented and less short-sighted. Knowing that the desires and goals of Demons are somwhat unsophisticated she's very good at keeping them content.

2-1. There was, but going into why is kind of a spoiler.

2-2. Again I can't say because of spoilers. 

3. The gods got pissed off a lot. The Magicant's wish granting powers are unlimited, so its existence undermines the agenda of almost every other god and goddess in the pantheon. Leave it to the chaotic deity of luck and fortune to create something that thumbs its nose in divine authority. 

[danielxcutter]

Dec 14, 2016 9:44:04 GMT rogonandi said:

Dec 14, 2016 5:31:10 GMT danielxcutter said:

1. Quizmalia was kicked out of the Manjulias pantheon because she made the Magicant and threw it on the Material Plane, right? She still seems to be enough of a god to grant divine magic to her followers, take care of her plane Zebro, and put treasure chests here and there, complete with Pandorinos. Then again, Judge Daethros technically isn't a god and yet pretty much every single Souballo cleric we've seen seems to be Clerics of Daethros... Just exactly what's the difference between being a god of the Manjulias pantheon and being a divine entity that can have clerics?

2. As mentioned above, Judge Daethros technically isn't a god, although he is capable of granting divine spells. However, in the post that it was mentioned, it says a) Daethros is the "steward to the throne", and b) "There presently isn't a a ruler of G.E.A.R.S at this moment in history", which heavily implies that there was a ruler of the Great Empirically Absolute Rule System, but there isn't now. Also, it seems odd that the current ruler of the CE demons, Janusine, is NE.... and she's the goddess of ambition, so I wouldn't be surprised if she took that spot from the original CE god who was in charge of them.

I have two questions about this.

 2-1. Am I right - were there originally a LN ruler of G.E.A.R.S. and a CE god of demons?

 2-2. Do the Magicant fiasco and/or Quizma have anything to do with the current vacancies?

3. Just how much did the big Q piss off the other gods because of the Magicant? I'm pretty sure that the Lawful ones - Stellina, Sarbek, and the ruler of G.E.A.R.S. - were absolutely furious, and the Neutral and Chaotic ones probably weren't that happy either.

1. Honestly, not a whole lot. The biggest difference is mostly statistical power levels and Monster Manual stuff such as challenge rating, stats and such.

2. It's likely Janusine usurped the Chaotic Evil throne from an older god. The main reason she's in that position of power is because she's...the most powerful entity in BloddenGogga (might makes right in this plane, after all.) Also, her non-chaotic nature allows for her to be somewhat more organized, goal oriented and less short-sighted. Knowing that the desires and goals of Demons are somwhat unsophisticated she's very good at keeping them content.

2-1. There was, but going into why is kind of a spoiler.

2-2. Again I can't say because of spoilers. 

3. The gods got pissed off a lot. The Magicant's wish granting powers are unlimited, so its existence undermines the agenda of almost every other god and goddess in the pantheon. Leave it to the chaotic deity of luck and fortune to create something that thumbs its nose in divine authority. 

EEEEEEEEEEEE SEEEENPAAAI

Now I've got that out of my system, just how unlimited is the Magicant's power? I mean, even if it was made by a god, it was only made by one god.

[rogonandi]

EEEEEEEEEEEE SEEEENPAAAI

Now I've got that out of my system, just how unlimited is the Magicant's power? I mean, even if it was made by a god, it was only made by one god.

Well Quizma did explain that someone could "Wish for the plane of Manjulias to get ripped in half, it's contents spilling into the void forever."